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Revar has made me the package release manager for fbmuck. (She's also made me a full administrator on fbmuck. Ph33r. I know I'm quaking in my shoes...)

I made a change in 6.05 that many admins are not going to like -- and that change relates to wizbitted programs. Wizard programs must have a Mucker bit in order to run, and Wizards who own wizbitted programs must also have a Mucker bit in order for their programs to run. (This can be any Mucker bit, not just M3.)

So yeah as it says in the topic I have no idea whether I should ask this question here, but I thought..ah well enough explanation.

I got bored and decided to try and learn MUF, strange language I must say. Anyways I was working on a system that would allow a person to have more than one desc. I decided I would do this by setting the desc of the object, player or room to the dbref of the program, and then have the program look for a certain prop on the user and output a desc based on this prop. I came up with this:

Just got the bug to start up a MUCK for myself and friends, and eventually others this weekend. Got myself a good host, even got it paid for... got everything lined up... uploaded the files for fb5.68, tried to compile... and netmuck was never made. Tried again, same problem... heck, tried fb5.67, still not compiling.

Now I'm frustrated. I can't figure out why this isn't working but for the fact that it's a slackware 3.2.3 server, but the documentation doesn't mention those, just the 2.3.x ones...

Furry Final Fantasy MUCK. 8+ years old and still running strong!

This is Keet, aka Foxbird, making a return to the MUCK developer community. It's been ages since I've played with the FuzzBall source, let alone the WinFuzz portions of it. I've checked with the sourceforge site to see what bugs and comments have been posted about WinFuzz in the interim, and found that a large number of the bugs for both FB and WF in the code are still listed as 'open' and have been since 2000.

Arcana's Psycho Finger Program

A finger program I wrote up that is absolutely crazy. It's fully extensible and allows you to customize any field in (almost) any way you want, including the props it gets data from, what the field is called, and a little description of what it does.

Still in beta. Hasn't been used in production before. If you would like to use it, please do. If you have any comments, I'd love to see them.

I'm building yet another Fuzzball 6 database from scratch. I lost my old "standard DB" in an HD crash, along with all associated programs.

In any case... there's a sourceforge project at:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/fbbasedb/ that proposes a Standard DB link. Now, a big question I have is - would the majority of MUF/MPI programmers object to me taking code from their web sites to plot into a huge, decent startup database?

There are precious few clients supporting the MCP protocol. In fact, one of the few I've heard of (Trebuchet) seems to be very nice but apparently a bit buggy, and unfortunately I'm attached at the hip to my current MUSHClient. Rather than fight a losing battle with the developer to add MCP (he's already got MXP/Pueblo in there), I figured, hey, wouldn't it be nice if EVERYONE's MUCK client could support MCP?

Yeah, I'm stuck with this nifty GERMAN Muck/Mush project and I can't find any coders....

Woo, another MUCK. The MUCK's current name is 'a MUCK' (yay for originality ^^.) Yay, aren't YOU excited? (The proper answer is, "Why yes, I am", c'mon, sound more enthusiastic.) Currently we are looking for builders, coders, players, idlers, etc etc... If you want to check it out, come to telnet://spunge.org:3579
Whoa! Wait! What the hey is the MUCK about before I go there? Well, since is so dang hard to explain to everyone what it's about, I'll just cut and paste this little bit that captures the main idea...

Well, this is my first post/blog. I recently implemented a property priviledge system in FB6, release candidate 9. I don't have it running on a public server, so unfortunately it can't be seen by anybody yet. I will outline the modifications I have made so far.

First I replaced the PROP_UREAD, etc. flags with the following flags:

PROP_READPRIV
PROP_WRITEPRIV
PROP_LOCKPRIV
PROP_WIZPRIV

Yet Another New MUCK? It's true, it's true, and I am ashamed! ...Okay, not really.

Only issue being that the code has a lot of custom programs that all need to be debugged. Alas, it's not the sort that can be tested by sitting around typing all sorts of commands to see what happens. The largest, most important bits of code, need to be used to be tested. And thus, we find that we need people to .. well .. use it.

Another new MUCK looking for MUF wizards. Adult, RP.

Now that I have finally gotten things up and running, I need as much help as possible to make Wolfs Den Muck Grow. I am taking applications for any and all positions, save for God. here is the site address : wcd.wolfpaw.net port 22

I've written up a preliminary specification for a set of MUF primitives that would be needed to be able to create a MUF debugger, which is itself written in MUF. While there already exists an inserver MUF debugger, it would be nice to be able to have a MUF version, for flexibility, and the ability to write a GUI interface for it, among other reasons.

Here's the rough proposal. Suggestions for better primitive names and designs are encouraged. I would love to see this be supported in all the various muck flavors if possible, so we should hash out issues here first, before implementation starts.

I've put together an online MUF Repository for all MUCK coders to access and take advantage of if they would like.

Simply visit:
http://frogpond.dyndns.org:7000/

to see what I'm talking about. Read the Help page for details on what I have in mind for the repository. It is open to all MUF coders, regardless of platform. If you would like to have an account in the repository, simply see the instructions located on the Help page.

A Proposal for Protecting HTML Clients from Stray HTML Tags

Just out of curiousity, how do y'all recommend we go about finding potentials to flesh out our staff? We've advertised within our playerbase, and had some great volunteers from that. But we have a few desired positions unmanned at the moment, and I'm trying to decide what is the best way to handle them.

Any suggestions? I've considered advertising at Mudconnector, but since such a huge percentage of their userbase is composed of MUDders, most of the contacts I have from there wouldn't make good MUCK administrators.

Does anyone know where the WinFuzz site went? I know TWU has been up in the air for a while. Is Fuzzball 6 obviating extra work to port to Windows?

... thus the explanation for the falling sky chunks and the flames in the water. But I digress.

What if, in order to facilitate the better writing of MUF and maybe even MPI code one were to have an interpreter, written in C, that would take your code as a text file then react to your commands as though it were the MUCK and it were telling you what that MUF code would do.

It would let you know when your setup was failing. It would let you know when your code was popping one too many times. It would sleep with you at-- wait I'm getting off track.

For those of you who envy Trebuchet's local MUF editing, but who love your TinyFugue, there's now a solution! MCP Macros for TinyFugue!

Posted the following to the MUF Den, but just wanted to mention the question here too:
Is there much interest in SQL support in MUF?
The full post is at:
http://mufden.fuzzball.org/boards/YaBB.pl?board=general&action;=display#=1028170638

I finally sat down and wrote VIM scripts to provide syntax color highlighting, and smart indenting for MUF. It's not completely perfect, but it's 99% right. I just put these files in my /usr/share/vim heirarchy, and patched my filetypes.vim file with the included diff file.

Yea, that's right. I'm brand new to MUF, but not programming in general. This whole stack-based thing needs some getting used to at first. Kinda feels backwards, especially those blinkin' IF-->THENs. Already a week into it, I'm almost done with my first semi-complex program. A few more tweaks here an' there, and it'll be ready. I'll post it here and my site. But not today. Say, does anybody have an idea for a programming project for beginners? I'm going to sleep.

I recently had the opportunity to start a MUCK. Yes, full stop. We've been open for a month now, and have a player max of eighteen. Here are the notable things we've done and learned so far, both technical and social.